Tuesday, April 27, 2004

Fun chats with a person

Capra Sesso Uomo (8_37_01): Hola, Tory.
T15WIT (8_37_35): Well, I think it's safe to say that no one actually has a fucking clue about a higher being or anything to that.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_37_47): Well, obviously.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_37_55): But that's what bugs me. Too many people claim to know.
T15WIT (8_38_06): I'm sorry if I ever did
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_38_26): Nah, don't apologize.
T15WIT (8_38_46): I know I probably have, I have no problem with a person claiming their opinions, but when they tell someone else that they're wrong is what gets me
T15WIT (8_38_56): because they just might be right, who knows
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_39_09): Yeah, I get like that, too.
T15WIT (8_39_25): and you know that when I say " a god" I don't exactly mean one god
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_39_31): A = One
T15WIT (8_39_33): I don't mean an army of angels either
T15WIT (8_39_36): yeah I know
T15WIT (8_39_45): I don't mean one singular god in one spot though
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_39_45): A turtles...doesn't work :p
T15WIT (8_39_58): Quiet :p, *damn logic*
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_40_04): Heh
T15WIT (8_40_09): I mean, there's one god, or one force
T15WIT (8_40_30): not a bunch like polytheo w/e that word is
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_40_57): Polytheisms?
T15WIT (8_41_00): I dunno, I just think there has to be a reason why we're here..and I'll shut up now
T15WIT (8_41_04): yeah, that might be it
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_41_25): Yes, but to claim to accept that a singular entity is the cause is just going down the same path.
T15WIT (8_41_40): Not one singular entity
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_41_55): Then what?
T15WIT (8_41_56): it might be a multitude of things, but it's all under one general subject
T15WIT (8_42_33): Like, there are many things that are "good" but they can all be considered different, but they all are under one category
T15WIT (8_44_00): and your laughing non stop
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_44_05): Nah
T15WIT (8_44_18): maybe I should study something more and look at it more before I go spouting shit off,
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_44_19): I look at it from the opposite view
T15WIT (8_44_31): okay
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_44_33): Not everything is all one thing, but one thing is everything
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_44_50): You can build a tower with bricks, but not vice-versa, in other words.
T15WIT (8_45_07): I see
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_45_19): But then again, at some point logic is created, so before that nothing can be learned, for any idea can obviously be defeated.
T15WIT (8_45_22): I don't know though
T15WIT (8_45_40): yeah
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_45_53): So there is no eternal answer, and unless we somehow defeat everything of which we are a part of, there is no way we can uncover the universal truth.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_46_12): So, if we remove ourselves from the picture, we can learn what we are. Impossible, though.
T15WIT (8_46_21): How is it impossible?
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_46_28): Sorta like whats-it-called theory (the one concerning atoms and viewing them...)
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_46_41): Well, Tory, if you don't exist, how do you plan to view something?
T15WIT (8_46_42): Go on *starts a grin*
T15WIT (8_47_15): If I don't exist then what am I right now?
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_47_23): I didn't say you don't exist.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_47_25): I said,
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_47_36): To understand what we are, we must overcome what we are.
T15WIT (8_47_50): Yes I see
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_47_53): Remember Flatterland? To understand the concept of Flatland, one had to overcome Flatland.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_47_57): Yeah, there we go.
T15WIT (8_47_59): and there's no way we can do that
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_48_03): Exactly.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_48_09): Because it defeats what we are.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_48_23): And if we could observe what makes the universe, then what would we be made of?
T15WIT (8_48_41): But still, wasn't there a way that Victoria Line finally observed even if she did over come what she was, she still suceeded in it
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_49_04): Yes, but that was a partial example - she had a limit to what she was learning
T15WIT (8_49_09): Of course, she had a higher being enlighten her and give her a suit but still
T15WIT (8_49_22): She did?
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_49_34): Yes. But the goal here is to find the highest level of high, and then go higher. Nothing from you :p
T15WIT (8_49_41): Hehe
T15WIT (8_49_52): What if it was infinite?
T15WIT (8_49_59): There was no highest then
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_50_06): As far as we're concerned, it is infinite
T15WIT (8_50_23): And what if it isn't?
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_50_48): Then it's not the highest level.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_50_54): You can always go higher.
T15WIT (8_51_09): I'm beginning to agree with you on that..
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_51_22): And when you can't, you simple go up another direction, and include the tower.
T15WIT (8_51_26): like in Sunday school, whenever we got to the tower of babel story..always hated it
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_51_31): Heh
T15WIT (8_51_50): When they say that god was the one that stopped them from making the tower
T15WIT (8_52_03): and btw, they had to be the best architects around but anyway
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_52_08): Heh
T15WIT (8_52_18): I never did understand that
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_52_26): Because it isn't true.
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_52_32): Isn't it obvious?
T15WIT (8_52_46): I remember in 3rd grade we had an astronaut come to us and I remember asking what he thought was outside space
T15WIT (8_53_02): his reply was one that also got me caught onto physics, "time"
T15WIT (8_53_11): Which in a way I could understand
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_53_19): Right. As if time was a concept of matter.
T15WIT (8_53_21): When I say outside space
T15WIT (8_53_24): heh, I know
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_53_33): "I just bought some extra time..."
T15WIT (8_53_34): I don't listen to that theory now
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_53_35): Erm, nevermind
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_53_39): I gotcha
T15WIT (8_53_47): but it did help me get interested in the concepts
T15WIT (8_53_48): yeah
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_54_02): You deal with this world's physics, I'll handle the stuff that doesn't exist, k?
T15WIT (8_54_15): Heh, okay
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_54_21): In other word, "homelessness"
T15WIT (8_54_26): *reads on about the new electron accelerator*
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_54_29): Heh
T15WIT (8_54_30): What? :-(
T15WIT (8_54_35): Nothing to do with Fermi lab?
T15WIT (8_54_37): :I
Capra Sesso Uomo (8_54_41): Erm...
T15WIT (8_54_52): Hehe

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